Swales summary:
In his article "The Concept of Discourse Community," Swales attempts to describe the six things that are guidelines to what is included in a discourse community. He argues that there is no specific clear definition of what a discourse community is so he clarifies what a discourse community is and gives examples of things that wouldn't be discourse communities.
QD
1. 1. common goals the discourse community has that they are interested in. When I was in competitive cheerleading we were all learning the same routine and all hoping to win the competitions so we were all in the same discourse community 2. places where they can put communication like the blog in this class we can all go here to put information in the class 3. feed back- places people can go where info is communicated 4. genres that become like categories because people continue to use them 5. language- their own words 6. change- a system for new members to be able to become a part. These are all six parts of a discourse community.
3. No, because not everyone in the class has the same goal because they are all in different majors after the class. But in a way it could be because the students have some common goals because they are doing the same assignments and trying to understand the class.
5. Well this class is a discourse community that I am in because; we all have the goal of passing the class, we can communicate on our blogs and put information on them, we get feedback from peers on all of ours blogs and papers, the things we learn we continue to use, we are all becoming better writers or that is the goal and were all new members to the class.
MM
I learned some things that I didn't know about discourse communities but the majority of it I was already aware of.
Reflection
I thought this was interesting because it explained the guidelines of discourse communities which made it easier to define one. This probably will be helpful to me because we talk a lot about discourse communities in this class and it helped me to understand them better. I agree with him with these guidelines they make sense and are a good set of guidelines.
Gee Summary
In his article "Literacy, Discourse, and Linguistics," Gee talks about his opinion of Discourse and the different parts of it and how it relates to a discourse community. In this he talks about dominant and nondominant Discourses, primary and secondary Discourses, metaknowledge, and mushfake and discuses their meanings. He argues that a person needs to be fluent to be in a discourse community and that discourse can not be taught but that it can be learned by practicing because they vary too much.
QD
3. He says discourse with a "D" is a combination of views, identity kit, saying or writing, doing, looking, being ect. and that Discourse is identity and discourse is part of a Discourse. This makes sense to me because he explains it well.
4.primary Discourse is focused on self and cannot be critiqued as meta-language unlike secondary Discourse which contains dominant and nondominant discourses and bring money prestige, status ect.
5.He means that one is all about one person and their identity not a group of people.
6.This relates because no one teaches you your identity or teaches you to be you, so you can not teach someone Discourse because that wouldn't be the persons identity.
7. He means that if you are with a discourse community you can tell who belongs and who doesn't because it is obvious they do not fit in and this has to do with the language. This could relate to cheerleading if someone on my cheerleading squad doesn't know the chants that we do it is obvious that they haven't been on the cheerleading squad the past years like the rest of the girls.
8. This is so you can tell if a person belongs with the discourse community or not so you know if they should be in it or if they shouldn't.
11. Metaknowledge is knowledge about knowledge and it helps people to know what is going on or what things are.
12. I am part of a tumbling discourse community because I have been doing it since I was very young and I understand what the names of all the different tricks are and I would be able to have a conversation with anyone about tumbling and know what they are saying when they use specific words relating to it.
AEI
2. The discourse community that I was born into was Cleveland. People always say that I have a "Cleveland" accent and that a pronounce words like bAckpack and bAgle, I talk very sarcastically like many other people I know from home. Also, the area I lived in was a very good school district so students were held to very high standards and expected to value school very much. Here we are held to a high standard for doing well in school and value the education here so it is very similar.
4. I don't have conflicts or tensions between my discourses because I am able to act how I need to the the situation that I am in and it is not difficult because I know enough about each discourse. Between these discourses it isn't difficult to navigate because they are separate things that do not interfere.
Reflection
This article was not interesting while I read it because it was a little confusing to me. Once we went over it in class I understood it better so it will be helpful to me in the future. I agree with him because the whole identity thing really makes sense relating to the article.
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